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Submitted by rhiannon on Sat, 08/09/2007 - 17:01.
When you
consider that the number of British retired persons living abroad now tops 1.3
million and that the rest of us Brits who are pre-retirees are spending tonnes
of our money in well over forty countries in terms of buying property abroad, you
can easily see that the lure of sunnier and more exotic climes affects a great
many of us!
Submitted by lisaandsteve on Fri, 07/09/2007 - 21:33.
We left my house in Devon at 4am on a very cold and wet June day. My dad had kindly offered to drive me and my German Shepherd dog, Ice, over to Spain as I had not driven abroad before. My husband and kids stayed in Devon awaiting the money to go through for the house sale and would follow on in a few days.
Submitted by lisaandsteve on Fri, 07/09/2007 - 20:36.
Who did you come here with?: Family (including children) What's your best bit of advice for people thinking of doing the same as you?: Don't come here thinking it is hot all year round (you WILL need heaters in the winter). Also, bear in mind that wages in Murcia are the lowest for the whole of Spain so you can expect to earn around 5-7 euros per hour even if you are "qualified". Electricity and telephone bills here are expensive.
What plans do you have for your future in Spain?: <p>
We have been extremely lucky in that we both have our own businesses and they are doing well. We have all that we could ever have wished for (and more) so our plan is to carry on as we are for the foreseeable future, at least.
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In your experience, what is the biggest mistake other people make when moving to Spain?: <p>
Not checking out the area for work availability and cost of living (not as cheap here in Spain as it used to be).
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Why did you decide to come here?: We were always going to retire here but when house prices in Devon shot up and doubled, we decided to bring our plans forward and take the plunge.
What did you leave behind?: Absolutely bugger all (unless you are counting family - who lived over 3 hours away anyway).
What work do you do?: I am the editor of The North West Murcia Gazette. I started it back in November 2004 as the first magazine in the North West Murcia area. Now, 3 years on, it is a glossy colour monthly magazine and it has been used as a "blueprint" for others. There are a large amount of people who subscribe to the magazine both here in Spain and in the UK and adverts come from as far afield as Malaga. There is a fabulous website to accompany the magazine - <a href="http://www.murciagazette.com/">www.murciagazette.com</a>.
What made you choose this location? Did you know much about it before you moved here?: We went on the internet in the UK to look and found what we thought was the best website - <a href="http://www.noblevalera.com/">www.noblevalera.com</a>. The prices were listed, properties were well-photographed and described, and we contacted them and arranged to fly over to check out some properties listed with them. To be perfectly truthful, back in 2002 for the Murcia inland region, they were about the only website worth looking at. Friends of ours had moved out to Lorca in Murcia in September 2002 and so we thought we, too, would check it out.
Tell us about the place you live? What's it like (a house, apartment, flat, etc)? What are your neighbours like?: We live in the Campo with 1 1/2 acres land with fruit/olive trees. We have a couple of houses dotted around so we are not isolated but you can't pop your head over the fence to ask for a cup of sugar, either!!!
What's the best thing about where you live?: The fantastic views, the peace and quiet and the friendly Bullas people. I have loads of space for my 3 dogs (a German Shepherd, a Boxer and an English Bulldog) and my Blue and Gold Macaw.
What have you learned about your area that you think other people should know?: Bullas wine is fantastic!!! There is a brilliant wine museum here well worth a visit. Lots of great places to eat and bars that specialise in seafood.
Is there anything you're not so happy about?: <p>
Bullas is quite backward in many ways. It is similar to what the UK was like perhaps when my grandparents were young. I do not mean this in a derogatory way but even the Bulleros say themselves "We are simple people". Sometimes it can be very frutstrating when nobody seems to know what they are doing (I know Spain in general can be very "mañana" but it is much worse here in Bullas). I also get very upset at the amount of stray animals here and the treatment of animals in general, but I knew all that before I came to live here.
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How important do you think it is to be able to speak Spanish?: Extremely important. However, it was easier when we moved here as we were the first English family in Bullas so had no choice but to learn. Now Brits come over and mix with other Brits and I think that is quite sad.
Do you miss anything from your home country?: The only thing I miss is Xmas in the UK. I cannot get used to it here, even though I would not fly home for it. I have chosen to live here and so it is one of those things that I will get used to, I am sure.
Do you have any regrets?: None whatsoever. I love it here.
Submitted by LosMiradores on Fri, 07/09/2007 - 17:29.
Luxury self-catering holiday apartment, sleeps up to 6, stunning marina views, 2 minutes walk to the beach!
Submitted by admin on Thu, 06/09/2007 - 14:55.
If you have a home in any area in Murcia then I really need you to submit a case study.
Our newest book Buying Property In Murcia http://www.nativespain.com/new-book-buying-property-murcia needs your input.
I'd really love to include case studies for as many types of people / houses / lifestyles as possible. If you need me to I can change your name in the book. But it would be great to get your input - click here to add your story: http://www.nativespain.com/node/add/case-study
thanks in advance
Debs
Submitted by LosMiradores on Tue, 04/09/2007 - 18:33.
Address: <p>
La Manga Strip, just before you turn onto the road that leads to the Port.
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This is our five year old son's favourite restaurant in La Manga and he's got pretty good taste! Great for a snack during the day but best for formal dining in the evening. Even although the tables are decked with fresh white linen and the overall feel of the place is formal the children are still welcomed which is lovely and so refreshing compared to eating out with children in the UK. The fillet steak with roquefort sauce is to die for and my youngest son would live on their bolognaise if given half the chance! ![]()
Submitted by LosMiradores on Tue, 04/09/2007 - 18:11.
Thought I would say a quick hello and introduce myself! My user name is LosMiradores, I am married with two children, aged 8 and 5. We have a self-catering apartment which we rent out and use for holidays ourselves on the La Manga strip at www.yourlamanga.com (am I allowed to put the web address?). As time passes however the desire to uproot and move to Spain permanently keeps growing so who knows where we might be in a few years time!
Submitted by Dream Spain on Tue, 04/09/2007 - 17:55.
Where are you from?: Codsall, South Staffs, U.K. Where do you live now?: El Carmoli, Cartagena, Murcia Who did you come here with?: What's your best bit of advice for people thinking of doing the same as you?: Always have a back-up plan. Even with the best planning, intention and
luck things may not turn out the way you dream. Always think “what if?” and have a fall-back if things don’t work out or
circumstances change. If you are moving
out as a couple or family really understand each others aspirations and needs –
it can be stressful and you need to have a shared goal to work towards.
What plans do you have for your future in Spain?: To continue our business, helping clients
find the best property in the area and introducing them to the treasures of the
region. To continue enjoy our business
and leisure time, improving our knowledge and use of Spanish and developing our
network of friends and business associates in Spain.
In your experience, what is the biggest mistake other people make when moving to Spain?: There are obvious mistakes like not
researching the area etc. but recently I’ve seen more people discontented
because they have moved out as a couple or family and not everyone has been
behind the decision or one partner has moved purely to satisfy the other. It can be a recipe for disaster if not
everyone finds their own purpose and sense of satisfaction here.
Why did you decide to come here?: <p>
If you believe in fate then our move to Spain
does have the feel of destiny or if you are more pragmatic, like my husband, it
is the fruit of discontent, many hours of long debate (often with red wine
included) and hours of research and planning.
When we first viewed Spanish property we
were shown nothing we felt we wanted for a holiday home, let alone something
that would make us consider a permanent move. ‘By chance’ a parental friend mentioned he
owned a property on Costa Calida – “where?” was our response.
Feeling we had nothing to lose we took an
afternoon off and went in search of a town called Los Alcázares.
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The old fashioned, almost charmingly shabby
look and feel of the place delighted us and the incredibly tranquil Mar Menor
very quickly won us over.
We found a
townhouse which met all our requirements and as we explored the area more we
realised we had struck gold. Indeed we
had many holidays, short breaks and even our honeymoon in that house.
As we were spending more and more time in Spain we got a
good insight into local business and our own career experience helped us spot a
potential opportunity of our own. We
began working in the property market on a very small scale and found we really
enjoyed providing people with a truly professional way to find a property in
such a lovely area.
While our Spanish business was in its
infancy we still worked in the UK,
embroiled in corporate life.
However the
more time we spent in Spain
on business the more we recognised that our UK careers were not providing us
with enough satisfaction in return for the rounds of endless meetings,
conference calls and long distance journeys.
Our main source of satisfaction was coming from applying our experience
to help people within our Spanish venture. We were at our happiest sitting in our
supermarket bar listening to the locals chat or discovering new places in the
region.
We talked about living in Spain endlessly,
but it seemed like it would and could only be talk.
Our next Spanish property purchase was an
unplanned but unanimous decision made completely with our hearts. We were
chatting with a colleague who mentioned houses had been released that very day
with fantastic views of the Mar Menor in a quiet Spanish village. Ten minutes later we had arrived at the site,
plans in hand. In that moment we could
already feel the sea breeze on the terrace, see our long walks on the beach and
taste the tapas at the local bar. Our heads soon dosed us with reality when we
had to work out if we could actually buy the house and ask our solicitor to
check if it was legally sound, which to our relief it was and we could!
At first we still saw this solely as a
second home, but we had the final push towards our move when the company we
worked for started voluntary downsizing, finally presenting us with the opportunity to
leave and run our business full time. It was a difficult decision involving
lots of business planning, number crunching and soul searching as we knew moving
to Spain was the only option if we wanted to expand the business properly. Yes if felt daunting, but also completely
right.
Since then we have of course had our ups
and downs. But we’ve never had so many happy and memorable days. We’ve gone shopping for Christmas sprouts and
come back with a dog, seen an eighty year old man fly a loop in the sky and
watched our clients fall in love with this part of Spain, just as we have.
It’s
not one thing that makes us love living here, it really is a big cooking pot
filled with local characters, family culture, great activities, history,
scenery, sunshine (!), great food and
drink and a completely sane but at the same time crazy attitude to life.
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What did you leave behind?: Two teenage step-daughters, parents,
sisters and brother, nephews and nieces, friends. A great little real ale pub and two well paid
corporate jobs.
What work do you do?: We run an independent property agency –
helping people find the right property in the area, assisting them with the
buying and after-sales process.
For new build properties one of the key
steps is identifying reputable builders who build quality properties in the
right location and sell them at realistic prices. We work hard to develop good relationships in
this area so that we can offer our clients the best properties in the area and when
there is flexibility, arrange payment schedules to meet their
circumstances. When a property is under
construction we send out progress photographs and when the property is
completed we can help the clients with setting up the property – furnishing,
lighting etc. We work within our local area to identify excellent re-sale properties
and we offer straightforward, candid advice about valuations and marketing. If needed we help our clients find an
independent solicitor and can guide them through the process of setting up a
Spanish bank account, essential in Spain
We provide our clients with no-pressure,
no-obligation viewing visits – designed by themselves for themselves.
Our website is our shop window and we
regularly update prices and availability so that clients get an honest view of
property prices in the area. We also include photographs and detail of
this lovely area, so that prospective clients can get a taste of what they will
see if they visit us.
What made you choose this location? Did you know much about it before you moved here?: I still maintain it was pure good fortune!
Like many people back then we had never heard
of Murcia
or the Costa Calida but relied on the recommendation of one man – we are
indebted to him!
Tell us about the place you live? What's it like (a house, apartment, flat, etc)? What are your neighbours like?: We live in a three bedroom, semi-detached
house, on the side of a hill with a big terrace which looks out across the Mar
Menor. The area is residential, mainly
Spanish and there are lots of Spanish second homes here. In the summer the area is alive with the
sound of holiday makers and fun. There
is a little open air cinema we can see from our balcony and we have a friendly
local bar run by an extremely hardworking Spanish family – Antonio, Adila and
their boys.
Our immediate neighbours are
English but most of the community are Spanish and are very friendly and warm.
What's the best thing about where you live?: The feeling of light, space
and tranquillity.
What have you learned about your area that you think other people should know?: Apparently there is quite a lot of
resentment in Cartagena that Murcia city is
the region’s capital. Cartagena
is one of the oldest cities in Spain
and in comparison Murcia
city is relatively ‘new’.
It doesn’t
help that many years ago the Bishop of Cartagena fled to Murcia and never
came back.It is probably not a wise
activity to visit Cartagena and rave about the
joys of Murcia
city in front of the locals…..
Is there anything you're not so happy about?: No, it takes time to recognise and accept
differences in culture and attitude here, especially in the business world –
but it is part of adjusting to a new way of life.
How important do you think it is to be able to speak Spanish?: I
think it is important – not to necessarily become fluent but to be able to get
by day to day, deal with emergencies, be courteous in public etc. Of course the ideal is to become fluent but
it takes lots of time and hard work – not a 7 day miracle CD!
Do you miss anything from your home country?: Family and friends, but they visit often so
we don’t have to miss them for very long. We missed curries at first but we’ve now got a great little Indian
supermarket and Bill has learnt how to cook a whole variety of tasty curries.
Do you have any regrets?: Sometimes that we didn’t make the move
earlier, but in reality the timing in our lives would not have been right, so
no.
Submitted by debsjenkins on Sun, 02/09/2007 - 18:07.
Hola!
I'm writing a second book to follow on from "Going Native in Murcia"
entitled "Buying Property in Murcia" and if you've bought a place
in the region I'd like to invite you to be in it.
As well as in-depth property reports on the main areas in the region
I'll also be looking to feature case studies from people who have already
bought a place here - whether as an investment, holiday home, retirement
home or permanent residence.
Submitted by admin on Sun, 02/09/2007 - 13:59.
Submitted by admin on Sun, 02/09/2007 - 13:54.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - 2nd September
ACCLAIMED BRITISH AUTHOR TO PEN SECOND BOOK FOR EXPATS WANTING THEIR OWN PIECE OF MURCIA REAL ESTATE
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